Robert
Key (Salisbury) (Con): It gives me great pleasure to congratulate
the hon. Member for Telford (David Wright), first on securing
the debate and secondly on his renewed chairmanship of the
all-party group. He is doing a service to us all, and to world
heritage sites. I wonder, Mr. Olner, whether you remember the
film that accompanied the British bid for the Olympic games
in Singapore, and the dramatic effect of seeing Stonehenge
with the Olympic flags behind it. That was part of the reason
why Britain gained the Olympic games for London. Of course,
I have the honour to represent the stones and the Stonehenge
world heritage site, which includes Avebury, which is not actually
in my constituency.
The story of Stonehenge is a great one,
but also a sad one. Back in 1985 the United Kingdom withdrew
from UNESCO. I was, at the time, the last national commissioner
to have been appointed for UNESCO from the United Kingdom.
I was obviously sad at the decision of my Government to pull
out at that time. However, that has been remedied. We are back
in, and I am delighted that the Secretary of State for International
Development took that decision.
During the period that we were
out, much had happened in terms of designating British sites.
There is now a long and distinguished list, as we know. UNESCO
now has a full British complement and is responsible for the
world heritage sites. Sue Davies is chairman of the culture
committee of the UK National Commission for UNESCO and the
chief executive of Wessex Archaeology. I should, therefore,
start by declaring a non-pecuniary interest as a director and
trustee of Wessex Archaeology.
I remember well the launch of
English Heritage in the chapter-house of Westminster Abbey,
just across the road. In those days the chapter-house belonged
to the Government and was administered by the Department of
the Environment, and then by English Heritage. At the first
meeting of English Heritage, Lord Montagu of Beaulieu pledged
that the No. 1 priority would be Stonehenge, including the
refurbishment of the visitor centre, improvement of the site
and taking the roads out of the landscape.
Lord Montagu made
huge strides and efforts over many years, but he did not quite
get there. He was not the only one who was defeated. Margaret
Thatcher was defeated, too. I recall visiting her as Prime
Minister in her rooms in the House of Commons. She got on her
hands and knees with me, poring over the maps, looking at the
Stonehenge issue and arguing the case, because that was the
sort of person she was. However, even she did not manage to
crack the problem of Stonehenge.
Then Sir Jocelyn Stevens came
on the scene and he, as chairman of English Heritage, brought
to bear all his charm and charisma and all the other traits
for which he was famous and made valiant, dramatic attempts
to solve the problems of Stonehenge. We recall the cartoons
of people at English Heritage jumping out of windows and all
those happy days. However, even Sir Jocelyn did not solve the
problem of Stonehenge. I hope that Sir Neil Cossons will solve
the problem; he is the person most likely to succeed.
It was
not just Margaret Thatcher who failed to succeed; our present
Prime Minister also failed. I raised the matter of Stonehenge
with him at Prime Minister's questions in July 1997, when he
said that the Government were aware of the problem and would
do their best to try to solve it. We are still waiting. I suspect
that the Prime Minister will have retired before the stones
are put in their proper context.
This is an extraordinary story
about a world heritage site, because everyone has wanted to
succeed. I know, because I was the first Minister for National
Heritage at the Department of National Heritage. Quite rightly,
Sir Humphrey said, "No, Minister. You can't get involved
in your own constituency." So that was fine. But then
I became the Minister for Roads and Traffic and I saw the problem
from another angle and, once again, Sir Humphrey rightly said, "No,
Minister. You can't get involved in your own constituency." So
I could not solve the problem either.
The local authorities
were hugely enthusiastic about cracking the problem. Local
government officers in Wiltshire county council and Salisbury
district council were sweating away, trying hard to find the
right way through. That was a great drain on their expertise
and on the local authority budgets, but nobody succeeded.
The
current Minister has a huge challenge before him. I know that
he understands what this is all about, because he is helpful
and courteous, and has been infinitely patient as he has observed
the sand slipping through his fingers when it comes to Stonehenge.
His door has always been open; I am grateful for that. I know
that, thanks to his background, he has a good feeling for the
importance of things like world heritage sites in our national
history.
Stonehenge is about more than that, however; it is
a matter of national and international significance. I was
going through one of the huge piles of Government brochures,
plans and so on, and I came across a brilliant initial plan
that was produced to celebrate the English Heritage bids, which
spoke of
"Working together to meet the challenge."
And
on the front of that Stonehenge master plan was a quote from
Siegfried Sassoon's poem, "The Heart's Journey":
"The
stones remain; their stillness can outlast
The skies of history
hurrying overhead."
Then we turn the page, and we see
Sir Jocelyn Stevens saying something that I bet he has regretted
ever since. It is the sort of thing you say; it is the sort
of thing you mean:
"I can think of no better example
to the world of how this country cares for its great heritage."
Yes.
Quite. And that is the problem, because everyone has wanted
to solve this problem at Stonehenge. We all know that we want
to restore it to the grandeur of the time when there was little
interference by man. We want to take the roads out of the landscape;
do we do it with a tunnel or not?
We were all pretty surprised
when the then Minister, Lady Blackstone, announced that they
were going to build a long haul tunnel beside the stones, and
we said, "Hooray, but where is the money coming from?" But
of course, earlier this year the Department for Transport said
that it had no money, so that was all over and we had to go
back to the drawing board.
We have had endless problems about
the visitor centre and how it depends upon the tunnel or the
road improvement, and if the Winterbourne Stoke bypass and
the Countess road flyover are built without the tunnel there
has to be a new public inquiry. It gets more and more convoluted.
That is the problem. I honestly believe that our system of
national government is not good at delivering this sort of
project; it is just not designed to do it. Even when two Prime
Ministers have been personally committed to trying to find
a solution, they have not found it.
So we have to keep trying
and we will keep trying. Meanwhile, the stones will not get
damaged. They will be as mysterious and wonderful as ever.
They deserve their designation as a world heritage site. But
we should be increasingly ashamed of the visitor facilities
there, and of the encroachment of the 20th and now the 21st
century upon the landscape of the stones, and we must try harder.
I am still passionate about this and I believe that there are
ways through. I am delighted that the Minister for roads has
also had an open door and I know how much he wants to solve
this. I know how much the Minister who will reply to today's
debate does too, but we must go on until we do solve it; otherwise,
we shall not be living up to our responsibilities as the keepers
of a world heritage site like Stonehenge and Amesbury. We simply
must do it. My plea to the Minister is that he uses his best
endeavours and, much more than that, his charm, his guile and
whatever else he can offer to help us do this, because everyone
will be grateful to him: the local authorities, the local people,
and the people travelling up and down from the West Country.
My final point is that a world heritage site in this case is
not just a heap of old stones. Stonehenge represents an important
symbol of the history of our country and culture, but much
more than that, it is the gateway to the west of England. The
west of England is one of the most innovative, exciting, vibrant
parts of the United Kingdom. We trade on our heritage, our
environment, our beaches and our holidays. At the same time,
we have—in my constituency at least—the lowest
unemployment rate in the United Kingdom and the highest rates
of economic activity. We have high technology, we have nanotechnology
and we have science in bucketfuls, and yet the whole economy
of south-west England comes to a halt at Stonehenge. Stonehenge
ought to have a large road sign saying, "Gateway to the
South-West"; instead, you get to Stonehenge and there
is a big sign saying, "Road Closed".
That is the
problem, because in the south-west of England the infrastructure
investment has been poor over many years. We have not had road
improvements. We have had to fight even to get the M5 designated
a strategic route. The A303, which was always the second route
to the south-west, has been downgraded. The Blackdown hills
controversy cost us years. It cost the economy of the whole
south-west years; it cost the tourist economy of the south-west
huge amounts. It continues to cost everyone a great deal, not
only in terms of money, but in terms of everything that world
heritage sites stand for. There is every reason why the Government,
as a whole, should get together to solve this problem: it is
about the economy, the quality of life and the standard of
living.
Only last night, some of us had a meeting with the
South West of England Development Agency. It too recognises
that the bottleneck of Stonehenge is having an adverse impact
on the place of the south-west of England in the world, in
terms of economy and quality of life. So the problem represented
by Stonehenge is a massive problem, and I have not over-egged
that in any sense. But at heart it is the stones that matter,
and the landscape in which they lie. They matter to us and
to our children and grandchildren, and we must crack this problem
for their sake too. I put in a plea not just for all the world
heritage sites to be in our hearts and minds as we think of
everything that makes Britain so British, but for us to think
in practical terms about the need to provide world-class visitor
facilities. Britain is capable of the very best—we know
that—but we are failing miserably at Stonehenge in 2005.
I hope that, by the middle of 2006, we will see the Government's
working party produce a sensible plan that can be costed, afforded
and implemented without delay. At that point, UNESCO can realise
its dreams for the world heritage sites in this country, all
of which are magnificent; indeed, I hope to see more. My hon.
Friend the Member for East Devon (Mr. Swire) has in his constituency
not only part of the Jurassic coast international site, but
the Cornwall and west Devon mining landscape, which is the
subject of a new application.
There is a huge task ahead. Everyone
wants this to happen. Minister, please make it happen. |