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The Secretary of State for International Development (Clare
Short): I beg to move, To leave out from "House"
to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:
"welcomes the lobby of Parliament by the Trade Justice
Movement and increased recognition of trade as a key component
to reducing global poverty; welcomes also efforts made to draw
public attention to these important issues; recognises trade
has an important role to play in helping countries achieve the
Millennium Development Goals (MDGs); is aware that to achieve
this a multilateral trading system is needed giving developing
countries a fair deal; recognises that the Government is committed
to working with developing country partners, and other bilateral
donors and multilateral organisations to achieve this; believes
that the development challenges faced in Africa require the
international community, working together with African countries,
to make additional efforts to secure progress towards the MDGs;
welcomes the Government's commitment to turning the agreement
reached at Doha in November last year into a meaningful 'Development
Round' and to achieving real progress on market access and in
areas of importance to developing countries; will continue to
support efforts to reform the Common Agricultural Policy and
reduce trade-distorting subsidies; will support preferential
access to developing countries through the Generalised System
of Preferences aid to least developed countries through the
Everything But Arms initiative; recognises developing countries
themselves must undertake effective policy measures to integrate
into the global trading system; supports these efforts and engagement
in a broad range of activities to help countries participate
more effectively in the multilateral trading system; and further
welcomes the Government's commitment to doubling support for
trade-related capacity building from £15 million in 1998-2001
to £30 million in 2001-04.".
This is a happy day for me. It marks a real shift in the development
movement in the United Kingdom and, indeed, in the position
of Her Majesty's official Opposition. Different groups have
come to understand that more equitable trade rules are essential
to create the opportunity for the poorest countries to grow
their economies and for the poor of the world to work their
way out of poverty. It is important to have such a strong new
consensus across the development movement in the UK and across
the Floor of the House. That is a significant change and it
enables us to try to use our influence on the world stage to
bring about the policy for which we all jointly argue.
My Department and I have been working to get the development
lobby to take on the case for more equitable trade rules since
the Department was established in 1997. Importantly, its powers
were enlarged beyond being an organiser of the UK aid budget
to include an analytical role
in trade, agricultural reform, fisheries, environmental agreements,
debt, conflict, humanitarianism and so on. The objective was
not just to run a good UK aid budget that was as large as possible,
but to get the rules of the international system more equitable
so that the planet could be run in a more equitable and sustainable
way for all.
I should like to pay tribute to the quality of officials in
the Department. It is respected as one of the most high-quality
development organisations in the world in both its delivery
and its analytical capacity. It is staffed by highly motivated
high-quality officials. My first permanent secretary, Sir John
Vereker, is no longer with us, but he made an enormous contribution
to establishing the new strengthened Department. The UK should
be proud of the quality of the people who lead development work
for us across the world.
The new Department was established in 1997 with the remit to
consider trade and development. Our first hurdle was posed by
the Department of Trade and Industry. The official, now retired,
who led on trade in that large Department was struck with apoplexy
at the thought that the Department with responsibility for development
dared to have views about trade. There was an enormous battle
between the trade part of the DTI and my Department. Up to then,
the DTI had been asked to promote only UK trade interests, and
suddenly we were changing the grounds for discussion by saying
that it was in the UK's interest to have an equitable set of
international trade rules that allow the poorest countries to
grow their economies.
That change has taken place. There was a lot of joint work
and a lot of research, and by the time we got to Doha, DTI representatives-Ministers
and officials-were more progressive than trade representatives
from most other OECD countries because they saw more equitable
global rules as being in everybody's interests. Today we are
celebrating a long journey, and the first part of it involved
legitimising the DTI's concern with the global management of
trade rather than the simple duty to promote UK trade interests,
regardless of the interests of others.
From there we moved forward to Seattle. Everyone will remember
that almost every lobby and force, including the whole British
NGO development movement, was opposed to a new trade round at
Seattle. Many voices called for the WTO to be closed down. We
had a debate in the House of Commons-I see the right hon. Member
for Skipton and Ripon (Mr. Curry) nodding-in which a few of
us argued that the WTO is a useful organisation that gives us
a chance to strengthen global trade rules and make them more
equitable.
The Clinton Administration, particularly President Clinton
himself, the entire international trade union movement, led
most strongly by the US but including Britain, the whole British
development lobby and all the British environment NGOs were
completely opposed to a new trade round. They believed that
the WTO was a reactionary organisation that wanted to add to
trade rules and conditions on labour and environmental standards,
making it impossible for developing countries, which of course
want to raise those standards, to meet the rules and have access
to global markets. At that time, the trade spokesman for Her
Majesty's Opposition did not mention, in explaining the party's
position, the interests of developing countries.
Let us remember where we have got to. Today, with the movement
of Churches and development NGOs, there has been an important
shift forward. The last time there was trade competition in
the world and countries were erecting barriers against each
other, as we see with steel and with the US Farm Bill, was in
the 1930s, when there was depression in some parts of the world.
Country after country imposed tariffs, which threw the entire
world economy into the most terrible depression. That led to
the second world war and to fascism and all that flowed from
that.
Following the second world war, we started off with the general
agreement on tariffs and trade. I believe that the first trade
round after the war was called the Torquay round, which is rather
sweet. Not as many countries were members of GATT, and the negotiators
were blocs of rich countries. There were rounds of trade talks
to try to reduce the tariffs that remained from the 1930s. That
was a worthy process, and it was better than what it took over
from, but following the Uruguay round, the WTO was born. It
is only five or six years old, and it really was an advance.
The WTO is an organisation which countries join by choice,
and which is based on rules that apply equally to all. It negotiates
by consensus. I do not think that any hon. Member will agree
with the proposal made by the hon. Member for Southwark, North
and Bermondsey (Simon Hughes) that the WTO should make decisions
by majority. These matters so deeply affect the interests of
individual countries that we have to move forward by consensus.
It is remarkable that, in negotiating multilateral agreements
on the environment and trade at Doha and elsewhere, we manage
to reach global consensus.
In my view, and I think that this position is now more widely
recognised, the shift to the WTO gave us a chance to get more
equitable trade rules. Now, the majority of WTO members are
developing countries, and if they come together in a trade round
and work together, they will make gains. It is possible now
to have a set of global rules that are fair and that give developing
countries the chance to grow their economies.
Dr. Jenny Tonge (Richmond Park): Will the Secretary
of State comment on an article in the Financial Times this morning
which reports that the WTO trade negotiations are faltering
badly and there is not much optimism that an agreement will
be reached?
Clare Short: To be honest, I read the headline, not
the whole article, but it appeared to suggest that because of
the moves on steel and the US Farm Bill, there was a real danger
that the Doha development agenda, which is an agenda for a trade
round, would not be taken forward and we would not get a trade
round, and that would grossly weaken the WTO. I agree that taking
the WTO as an institution for granted would be a grave mistake.
If the Doha agenda is not taken forward, the WTO will start
to break up and lose its authority, which depends on consensus
in the international system. We could easily end up with the
rich countries making regional and bilateral trade agreements
and the poorest countries being squeezed out of the rule making
on international trade. If that danger were realised, it would
be a terrible loss for the world and for developing countries.
Mr. David Curry (Skipton and Ripon): Does the Secretary
of State agree that one of the reasons why it is essential to
maintain agreement by consensus in the WTO is that without it
the disputes procedure, which arbitrates in extremely difficult
cases and is widely respected, simply could not continue to
operate?
Clare Short: I agree. It gives one pause for thought
to consider that whereas in national politics we have the conflictive
style of politics that we all know and love, on crucial matters
such as multilateral environment agreements and world trade
agreements, all the world's countries are represented in a set
of negotiations and manage to reach agreement by consensus.
That is the only way to enforce such agreements-there is no
world army that can make any country that gets out of line get
back into line. Only through consensus and everyone understanding
that it is in the world's interests that we all play by the
rules and accept fair ways of decision making can we equitably
manage the current phase of human history. I strongly agree
with the right hon. Gentleman.
There is no doubt that in the run-up to Seattle there was a
general view among developing countries that they had achieved
less by the Uruguay round than had been promised, and there
was resistance to a new trade round as a result. That was understandable:
many of the agreements made during the Uruguay round were more
difficult to implement than countries had understood when they
made them. The rules of world trade are now enormously complicated,
and they are difficult for all countries to implement and individual
Ministers to grasp and negotiate. The agenda is now extremely
complex and extended in scope.
The argument that we advanced prior to Seattle-I made a speech
to this effect in early 1999 at the UN conference on trade and
development-was that if world trade rules were unfair to developing
countries, the only way to make them fairer was to have another
trade round. My mother would have said that we would be cutting
off our nose to spite our face if we said that we would not
have another trade round because the rules were unfair. A lot
of work went into building momentum so that developing countries,
rather than feeling hurt and aggrieved by the consequences of
the Uruguay round, would agree that another trade round was
in their interests. The South African Government have played
an important role in building an international coalition of
developing countries. They started their efforts in the run-up
to the Seattle conference and continued that work on the way
to Doha.
To help developing countries to advance their interests, my
Department announced-in 1998, I think, during a prime ministerial
speech at the WTO in Geneva-a big increase in UK funding on
trade capacity building. That is not a large part of development
aid spending, but it is important technical work that enables
countries to consider economic strategies-to see in which sectors
they have a comparative advantage that will enable them to expand
their economy and take up trading opportunities, giving them
the capacity to enter the international system and negotiate
to advance those trade interests. We have done a great deal
of work in that area. It helped many developing countries to
build the confidence to advance their interests at Doha and
demand the sort of development agenda that was agreed there.
We also worked hard-this is an interesting story, which answers
one of the questions from the hon. Member for Meriden-to build
a legal advisory centre in the WTO to provide advice from trade
lawyers to the poorest countries free and to low income countries
extremely cheaply-a law centre to enable low income countries
to exercise their rights under the rules of the World Trade
Organisation. When we tried to promote the proposal early on,
we met massive resistance, first within our own Government,
which we overcame in the ways that I described earlier. [Interruption.]
It is all part of a process to get everyone to globalise their
minds and look for a way of running the world that takes account
of everybody's interests. It is a movement that is taking place
in political analysis across the world, rather more rapidly
in some places than in others.
Then we encountered resistance in Brussels, where we were told
that we could not give countries money so that they could get
advice, which might mean that they would take action against
an EC country under the WTO. I said, "We give legal aid
to murderers." There was a ferocious battle. It was interesting
to see the two mindsets on trade. Do we want a rules-based,
fair system under which everyone can apply the rules and has
rights? Trade lawyers cost a fortune. Anyone who thinks lawyers
are expensive should look at the bills of trade lawyers. Poor
countries would be unable to exercise their legal rights without
some support.
The resistance to setting up a legal advisory centre was an
interesting example of the way in which people regard trade
as their vested interest against someone else's vested interest,
as opposed to our joint interest in growing the global economy
and giving the poorest countries the chance to grow their economies,
which is not against our interest. It is in our interest. If
the poor of the world had the capacity to consume more, the
people employed in industry and manufacturing in this country
would have opportunities to produce and export, which would
be beneficial to them and everyone else.
Mr. Patrick McLoughlin (West Derbyshire): As usual,
the Secretary of State is being honest and open with the House.
Will she tell us which countries caused the most trouble? [Interruption.]
Clare Short: That would be very honest. The hon. Gentleman
knows, as I do, that it is incredible that the world reaches
agreement by consensus in the global negotiations that are more
and more important to us. The globophobes attack all those intergovernmental
meetings and say that there is no proper democratic accountability,
but the proper accountability is to each democratic Government's
Parliament and civil society. We each send our representatives
to global meetings to reach agreement and there are many difficulties
on the way, but we frequently make progress. That is remarkable.
We are at a turning point in history. I am not in favour of
globalisation, and I am not against globalisation. Globalisation
is history, and it is stupid of anyone to be for or against
it. It parallels what the industrial revolution meant for Europe-an
opportunity to spread technology, trade, economic growth and
investment across the world. The question is how we are to manage
it and who will benefit. Will everyone be included or are some
countries to be marginalised? It is one of the leading tasks
of politics to bring about a more just world and a more sustainable
and stable world for future generations.
The first big, violent outing of the anti-globalisation protesters
was Seattle, where they called on everyone to oppose trade and
claimed that poor countries cannot afford to open their markets
and do not want to be exploited by multinational capital. They
said that the WTO is dominated by multinational capital trying
to impose its rules on the poor of the world. That was the rhetoric.
There were massive demonstrations, with many legitimate groups
on the streets, as well as the groups that went around smashing
up windows in Seattle.
I believe that after Seattle, if one had gone down most high
streets and spoken to decent, caring people, most of them would
have said that the WTO is an evil organisation that is trying
to exploit the poor of the world. It is a danger of these times
if the anti-globalisers are seen to be the ones who care about
the poor. They advocate policies that will harm and divide the
world and harm the interests of developing countries. That is
why our own dear development NGOs' move to calling for equitable
trade, instead of opposition to developing countries opening
their markets to trade or having the opportunities to attract
foreign direct investment, is a very important change. It puts
the UK in a strong position to advocate for a more just, equitable
and sustainable world.
I pay a tribute to the spokesperson for the Liberal Democrats
on trade and industry. He has written a pamphlet or small book
on globalisation. At the time of the Seattle talks, he was speaking
strongly-the right hon. Member for Skipton and Ripon was another,
but there were not many others-in the spirit that I am putting
before the House, which I think now has cross-party consensus.
This is an important day and the unity in the country is important.
The shift of development organisations is important.
I shall say a word on behalf of Mike Moore, the retiring director
general of the World Trade Organisation. One of the reasons
for the Seattle talks going wrong was the delay in agreeing
who should take over that post-whether it should be Mr. Supachai
or Mike Moore. After a long delay, during which we should have
been preparing for the Seattle talks, there was an agreement
that they should divide the job, I think for three years each.
The two men have worked well together. Mike Moore worked extremely
hard to get us to Doha and to the Doha development agenda. In
the past few days I read a savage attack on Mike Moore in a
newspaper. It came from Kevin Watkins, of all people, from Oxfam,
who is usually a reasonable person. He suggested that Mike Moore
had no concern for developing countries. That is completely
false, untrue and unfair. Mike Moore worked hard to enable the
world to reach a consensus. I pay tribute to him and to the
incoming Mr. Supachai. They have worked well together and they
will take the world forward.
I am optimistic because it is possible to take on complex issues
when we do not have agreement in our own countries. It is necessary
to arrive at global agreement if we are to take the world forward.
In a relatively short period we can see a big shift in public
opinion. If these moves can be made, we can take ourselves forward
into an era of better management of the global economy.
After Seattle, we were working with the World Bank to ensure
that the bank took more interest in trade and the need for developing
countries to make advances in trade access to improve their
economic position. There was slowness and reluctance, but since
then the World Bank has undertaken more work and produced the
statistics that are quoted about how trade opening and trade
liberalisation would be much more beneficial to developing countries
than increases in overseas development assistance, although
we need that to create institutions in developing countries
that will enable those countries to run their economies and
public services properly, and then to take advantage of trading
opportunities and the opportunity to move their economies forward.
The considerable task that remains is to move the world forward
into implementation of the agenda that was agreed at Doha. On
the way to the world summit on sustainable development, which
will take place at the end of August into the beginning of September
at Johannesburg-that is 10 years on from the Rio UN conference
on the environment-a preparatory meeting took place recently
in Bali. It was the cause of great derision. Happily I did not
go to Bali, so I do not have to be criticised. I have been there
under my own steam, having paid for myself. The meeting went
sour, but that did not mean that it was a disaster. It went
sour largely because the G77, having seen the action on steel
tariffs and the US farm Bill, is ceasing to believe that the
world meant what it said at Doha and then at Monterrey about
finance for development.
We have been building up a fantastic consensus throughout the
world, from the millennium development goals to the UN millennium
assembly. At Doha, there was a round of talks to make trade
rules fairer. At Monterrey, finance was discussed, and what
would be a sensible reform agenda for a proper balance between
the public sector and the role of markets. There was a commitment
to a reversal in the decline in development assistance that
is available to the world.
We want to go on to Johannesburg to integrate the environment
in the analysis and to overcome hostility between OECD countries,
environmentalists and developing countries. Instead of environmentalists
saying, "We don't want development", we want them
to say, "We want sustainable development, and we must guarantee
development to the poor in a way that is sustainable for the
world." That is the only way that we will keep the world
united.
Our commitment to implement what was agreed at Doha is absolutely
crucial if we are to keep the sort of consensus that we have
been building to drive forward progress towards a more just
world. That will not be easy. As I am sure that hon. Members
know, it was very difficult for France to agree to the commitments
made at Doha on reduction of subsidies and reform in the agricultural
sector. It held out until the end, and that was the most difficult
part of the agreement. Changes have taken place in the US and
some of our European Union colleagues have difficulties with
holding to what was agreed at Doha.
We now have a fantastic consensus in this country, but we need
to appeal to all our parties in all our networks throughout
the world and to all the NGOs and faith organisations that are
mobilised so impressively here today. We need to ask them to
reach out to their networks in Europe and especially in the
United States. Through the church networks in particular, they
need to say to the United States, the biggest economy in the
world, "Please don't think that you can run the world without
multilateral rules." To achieve a just and sustainable
world, we need the US to work with other countries to give everyone
the chance to grow their economies.
There is a lot left to do, but this is a very important moment
for the UK to have built the sort of agreement that we have
got. It now suits our country very well for us to go out to
bat on the world stage for more just rules for trade and in
other areas, in order to make the world safer and more sustainable
and decent.
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