| Mr. Robert Key (Salisbury, Shadow
Trade Minister):
A rare event has taken place today-a debate that has been
largely free of acrimony and a debate about ideas. I have been
a Member of Parliament for more than 19 years, and I can say
that views in both major parties have changed. I have no doubt
that the way in which the Labour party has embraced the market
constitutes a revolution, which I welcome. In 1983, some Conservative
Members would have resented the fact that we were debating overseas
aid, development and trade. I concede that changes have occurred
on both sides.
People outside the House will wonder why we are arguing about
whether to have a vote. It will seem a little like debating
the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin. The
usual channels display an amour propre on such occasions: it
is our half-day debate and we have tabled a motion. We will,
of course, support our motion. The Government's actions remain
to be seen. Whatever happens, people will recognise that the
debate has been remarkable.
I was impressed by the way in which the Secretary of State abandoned
her speech and spoke from the heart. It did not surprise me,
but it impressed me and I liked some of the new phrases that
she used. For example, she said that we should all globalise
our minds and she spoke about the "globaphobes" who
attack the consensus. She has provided some new ideas. She is
right that we cannot be for or against globalisation; it is
a fact of life and we must determine the way in which we manage
it.
I was grateful for the approach of my hon. Friend the Member
for Banbury (Tony Baldry) and his deep knowledge of the subject.
He spoke about the painstaking work of reforming the CAP and
the Doha process, which will occupy us for at least two years.
He also made a strong point when he said that we must support
the reformers in the developing countries and that for every
monster, there is someone who is trying to reform and bring
a country into the international community.
My right hon. Friend the Member for Kensington and Chelsea
(Mr. Portillo) was right that no one has a monopoly on compassion
and to stress the importance of the growing lack of accountability
in some non- governmental organisations. He also emphasised
the need to promote accountability and transparency throughout
development thinking.
My right hon. Friend the Member for Skipton and Ripon (Mr. Curry)
knows more than most of us about this subject. I was struck
by his comments on the need to make it clear that liberalisation
benefits developing countries as much as us.
My right hon. Friend the Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Mr.
Lilley) spoke about the hypocrisy of the developed world and
the shameful attitude of our European Union in not accepting
our responsibilities.
My hon. Friend the Member for Blaby (Mr. Robathan) drew on
his personal experience in Sudan, a country that I feel strongly
has one of the great forgotten conflicts and disasters of Africa.
He also drew attention to the plight of the people of Zimbabwe
who are starving while their own army loots diamonds elsewhere.
My hon. Friend the Member for South-East Cambridgeshire (Mr.
Paice) spoke from great practical experience about the need
to examine the issue of food safety, and to take on board the
issues of animal welfare and of what is fair for British farmers
as well as those in developing countries.
I was struck by the common sense of the hon. Member for Strathkelvin
and Bearsden (Mr. Lyons), who spoke of the breath of fresh air
that today's debate represents, and of how hon. Members on both
sides of the Chamber have had to face up to the problem of distrust
of politicians. The hon. Gentleman said that today's events
must not be a one-day wonder, and that we must respect the wishes
of the thousands of people from across the country who expect
us to do our duty in the coming years, and to live up to the
words that we have spoken.
We have listened to some serious speeches in the House today,
but we have also listened to and witnessed the mass lobby of
Parliament that has taken place outside. The thousands of people
who have come to London, including those from my own constituency
and diocese of Salisbury, represent countless other citizens
of all ages who mind very deeply about the state of the world
and the plight of so many of its people.
I share their anger that 800 million people do not have enough
food to meet their basic nutritional needs. In a shrinking world
of high technology and expanding opportunities, it is just not
credible to ordinary people in the rich countries of the developed
world that we cannot break the cycle of poverty, sickness and
death from starvation that we witness every day. Most of us
agree that we have a moral duty to seek ways of managing these
humanitarian crises better. We may sometimes disagree on how
to do that, although there has been precious little disagreement
in this debate.
Those who control the levers of economic and foreign policy-the
Governments of the world and the international institutions-are
staffed by professional advisers with laudable motives. But
to the hungry world, it looks as if there are too many international
arrangements, too many bodies with overlapping mandates, and
too many duplicated responsibilities-not only in respect of
food security but in the whole international apparatus for supporting
human needs and development.
That issue is underlined by the partners in the Trade Justice
Movement. That remarkable coalition of organisations has organised
today's lobby, and we must listen to it. All the organisations
have grass-roots, everyday, personal experience of the poverty,
sickness and death that are a reality for hundreds of millions
of people. Those people are not prosperous, not educated, not
secure and not safe. They are certainly not rich enough, nor
relaxed enough, to watch the World cup on television and go
to the pub to celebrate.
We have listened to the messages of each of those 43 organisations-I
think it is 43; the number has been going up in the last week
or two-that make up the Trade Justice Movement. Last weekend,
I visited every one of their websites. It was a moving and enriching
experience. Websites not only allow us to get the message direct,
without the need for any press or media; they also reduce the
spin. What we get is direct and unvarnished. The internet is
a valuable and powerful tool, and we should harness that power,
because power is what it is all about. The Trade Justice Movement
is about empowering the worst-off in the world. The best-off
must realise that it is in everyone's interest to move more
quickly than we have done, to alleviate poverty and to combat
hunger and starvation among the poorest and most vulnerable
people on earth.
Way back in 1996, under the Conservative Government, we agreed
at the world food summit that it was intolerable that 800 million
people did not have enough food to meet their basic needs. The
world community concluded then that this was caused by poverty,
conflict, and a lack of water, drains, roads and health care.
We agreed to work to halve that number by 2015. It seems now
that there is precious little prospect of achieving that goal.
What has gone wrong?
International trade has been the great driver of prosperity
for 50 years, rising at double the rate of growth of the world
economy. International investment is the force pushing forward
global investment. Freer trade and foreign investment have enabled
parts of south-east Asia to move from developing to developed
status in a generation. Poor countries are generally more dependent
on trade than rich countries; they receive eight times more
each year from trade than they receive in aid. The UN conference
on trade and development estimates that, by 2005, developing
countries could earn $700 billion more each year from exports
if tariff barriers were reduced.
There is no simple way of promoting global economic development.
We need to understand why investment flows to some developing
countries and not to others. We must identify comparative advantage,
create conditions for sustaining investment flows, and condemn
corruption, as the hon. Member for Clydebank and Milngavie (Tony
Worthington) said. We must also build markets and support democratic
political frameworks that lead to stability and prosperity.
We agree with the Trade Justice Movement that current international
trade rules hold back development in poor countries. Those countries
cannot compete in the global market while the European Union
and the United States subsidise our exports and impose tariffs
on our imports. The market is distorted and reform is imperative.
We hope, however, that the partners in the Trade Justice Movement
will also listen to some of the gentle messages that we are
offering them about accountability and openness. I believe that
they are wrong to condemn the general agreement on trade in
services. In many countries, water and sewerage infrastructure
is sadly a low national spending priority. If private companies
can provide or manage a service, where public infrastructure
has collapsed or none exists, and if they are willing to invest-perhaps
sharing the risk with the Export Credits Guarantee Department,
which is currently having yet another review-then it is better
that the GATS rules exist.
I believe that the Trade Justice Movement should also be cautious
in condemning the activities of international companies. It
is demanding
"new global rules to regulate and re-direct the activities
of international business".
However, it has no idea who would write the rules or who would
police them. The fact is that the multinational companies are
already regulated by the national laws of every country in which
they operate, and are subject to internationally agreed codes
of practice. The evidence is that multinationals operate to
a higher standard than most national businesses. They cannot
afford to take chances or cut corners. Too much is at stake
in their home country, from the Government and from their shareholders
alike.
We have had the world food summit of 1996, the Uruguay round,
the Monterrey consensus and the Doha development agenda. Earlier,
we even had the Torquay round. In Bali, we had the fourth preparatory
committee for the world summit on sustainable development, which
will take place in Johannesburg from 26 August to 4 September.
Next weekend sees the EU Heads of Government summit in Spain.
On 26 June, the G8 Summit will take place in Canada, where the
member states will discuss the New Partnership for Africa's
Development-NEPAD-focusing on conflict, trade, education, health,
development assistance and debt, where G8 policies affect Africa.
In this dizzy round of jet set wheeling and dealing, we ask
the Government, on behalf of the most vulnerable in the world,
and on behalf of all those the length and breadth of the UK
who support the motives of the Trade Justice Movement, for action
as well as words. We must remember daily so many people in Africa,
especially in Zimbabwe and in Sudan, where my brave friend Archbishop
Joseph Morona recently risked crossing the military front line
in the Nuba mountains in the search for peace and food for his
desperate people.
We look forward to the response to this debate by the Under-Secretary
of State for International Development. We know that she spent
some years as a journalist in South Africa in the 1970s. She
will have seen for herself real poverty and desperation in the
eyes of children, just as I have in Mozambique, west Africa,
Nicaragua and elsewhere.
For goodness sake, the Department of Trade and Industry has
eight Ministers. One of them should have been present at this
debate, although I concede that they might not know as much
about the subject as the Under-Secretary. On Sunday morning
last, I listened to the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry
being interviewed. She was robust on the need for the EU to
phase out export subsidies and to remove import tariffs from
the poorest countries. She was firm in her call for African
countries to dismantle the trade barriers that they erect between
themselves. However, she was hesitant about the time scale,
and admitted that the Doha talks would go on for two years.
That is too long for millions of the 800 million starving people
in the world, for many of whom two more years is a death sentence.
Two years and counting: in June 2004, we will expect this Government
to give us answers, not epitaphs.
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